There are a few things that are all true at the same time.
David Johnston is an eminent Canadian who did a job when asked by his government.
His ties to the Trudeau Family meant that plenty of people would never believe his motives were pure if his work suggested the Liberals didn’t fail, or if he debunked the politically sensitive stories out there.
And now that he has resigned the country can move forward with trying to fix this actually very serious problem of having the Chinese actively trying to fuck with our elections.
I know a lot of my more liberal/left wing followers won’t like to hear this, but political reality meant that whatever David Johnston said, nobody would hear him. Nobody would hear his denials of Sam Cooper’s salacious reporting as real and authentic even if it was because the person saying it was indelibly tainted in the eyes of people. Not just rabid Conservatives, but plenty of progressives and liberals too.
And now, we can attempt to do what this country fucking needs.
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I’m unsure of the value of a public inquiry at this point, but it’s the will of the House Of Commons that there should be one so we should have one. At this point there’s been two stories mixed together, which is Bob Fife and the Globe’s reporting mostly centered on what China has tried to do and our institutional failures to solve any of it, and then Sam Cooper’s bullshit. Cooper’s bullshit has been found out to be that, but it’s obscuring that there are a lot of real issues here.
Now, most of those issues aren’t necessarily – or, at this point, are clearly not – political failures, except in the sense that the Ministers responsible for CSIS have overall responsibility for their actions. Most of what we’ve found that’s actually serious and worth criticism – the fact Michael Chong found out in the Globe and not from CSIS about threats to his family, for example – has ended up mired in a political fight, which overshadows the governance issues of how the fuck did CSIS think that was okay to hide from Michael Chong?
What we have now is a country that doesn’t have any reason to doubt the results of the next election but does have a lot of doubt about the competence of people who are supposedly running very important parts of this country. This is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, and my advice to those on the left would be to stop defending David Johnston and start trying to bring the conversation back to the governance failures.
We know Pierre Poilievre will act with his narrow self interest above the national one, so bitching about that is a waste of time. There are a lot of things that need to be solved – Friday’s Power & Politics had a expert panel on about those issues – and a ticking clock. Trying to focus on CSIS reform, information sharing inside government, and additional technocratic fixes while an inquiry works on the big picture stuff will have the dual benefits of being good for our country and a political boon for the Liberals.
For all the defeatism and all the cynicism that the CPC have in some way won, the next election is what matters, and the best way out of the current malaise this government is in isn’t going to be a leadership change or waiting out the storm, it’s going to be the Government getting its head out of its ass, being willing to concede defeat earlier than they do, and being willing to accept more internal transparency and scrutiny than they’re instinctively willing to do. If they show some of the nimbleness they have showed at times on other issues here, they’ll get back on firmer footing.
Let’s be honest here – the security apparatus has been a mess my whole life, if not longer, and nobody will blame the Liberals for the institutional rot and racism inside CSIS. Our media does not have the capacity to blame them for it anyways, given their allergy to covering any story that isn’t about the here and now. And, frankly, it would go a long way to fixing the broadest problem, that the diaspora doesn’t fucking trust CSIS.
Half the time CSIS views Chinese Canadians as sympathizers and the other half of the time they’re dismissed as alarmist. There is no faith that if a member of the community tries to do anything about what’s going on – be it about election interference or broader intimidation – that CSIS will do anything. You have CSIS investigating a former Liberal Cabinet Minister in Ontario for 13 years without doing anything, but clear and credible threats to the welfare of the diaspora go uninvestigated and ignored.
At the end of the day, the government has to actually do something about the active problem they face, not just the risk of bad PR they’re dealing with, and if the government continues to stumble from point to point like I will be in 3 hours, then they’re going to continue to fail both on a political and a governance level. This is not an easy issue but it is an issue where the road forward is clear.
David Johnston is an eminent Canadian. He was also the wrong Canadian to be involved in the most politically charged investigation into government since 2004. These two things can be true together, and in this case they are. If we care about trying to find out what the fuck happened in a way that will bring this country together and make the next election harder to influence than the last two, then the Government has to step up to the plate with a serious offer on a public inquiry, and a serious internal reform agenda for CSIS.
Anything short of it will be to act in the bad faith the Liberals are accusing the Tories of acting in, and if the Liberals concede that they’re no better than the Opposition they might as well resign. Step up to the fucking plate – your country fucking needs it.
Well I agree with most of your argument, I wonder who you could/would/should have been selected?
Are we dumbing down our expert candidates for analysis of International security issues?
For what?
Did you think anyone that the Libs, or Justin Trudeau chose were going to get a smooth ride from our click bait opportunists and opposition?
Really?
Sadly and very unfortunately you’re probably correct in your assessment of the blindly stupid opinion of the masses who are incredibly naive and uneducated about the workings of government and the agencies which make it work. That doesn’t make it right to acquiesce to the mob! (That Mr Singh joined in with PP’s stupid squawking says more about him than anything else.)
The work of CSIS is secret. They shouldn’t be dealing with or advising/warning any member of the public about anything. That’s not their job. They find out things by many means and revealing those methods and sources can and does put some of their sources in grave danger. It also may reveal what they have found out to our adversaries. They pass information (when creditable) to the RCMP which has the responsibility of taking appropriate action when it is thought to be the correct and responsible thing to do. Yes,the RCMP has a lot to answer for; our national police force is in a bad need of a major shakeup. (Let’s have an Enquiry into the workings and many failures of the RCMP!)
All the babble about CSIS’s failure to act is nonsense. We don’t know and cannot know everything that they find.
Blame the lack of info sharing between CSIS and the RCMP or other government departments or agencies but to be successful CSIS cannot be be fully open and “transparent”.
I think most of the noise about Mr Johnston’s excellent first report is from people (esp including the media) who have not even read it. The Report clearly and logically spells out in some detail why a “Public Enquiry” cannot work. The nature of the material to be examined cannot be examined by the kind of public enquiry for which the mob has been clamouring!
When are we ever going to start pushing back against Poilievre, his utter bald-faced lies and his rabble who pretend to be a parliamentary opposition but make a mockery of it.
We are, collectively, a nation lacking in the understanding of how our federal system is designed to work (is civics taught anywhere or even at all anymore?) and we are, again, collectively, lacking the skill of critical thinking.
Jesus wept...