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It's always interesting to get these perspectives that actually acknowledge the issue of polling being against you, and try to strategize given that. But as is typical, there's not really any engagement with why this polls the way it does. Having a kid come out as trans isn't just a neutral act, since it can involve medical interventions, and there's also the fact that if you take the risk of suicide seriously, then parents need to be informed if their kid is at risk. There's simply too much at stake here to just hand waive this away with a "screw you, you're probably bad" idiotic response, as you recognize, but you need to dig deeper to really understand this, otherwise you'll continue to watch the world leave you behind, as it seriously grapples with these issues.

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Lecce's reasonable-sounding quote derives from a legal concept of "in loco parentis" – Latin for "in place of a parent." If kids are of school age and required to be in school (see: truancy), whatever the provincial government does and forces educators to do/teach is fair game. This isn't about the rights of parents (because they technically don't have any and because this has never been tested by the Charter), kids don't have any say (because even though kids undeniably have Charter rights, this has never been tested by the Charter). There's never been a reason to challenge in loco parentis because voters for virtually all of Canadian history have elected school boards filled with (mostly) reasonable people and elected (mostly) reasonable provincial governments. Until the recent crop of Conservative/Conservative-leaning provincial governments using this as a new scare tactic/wedge issue. Remember sex ed in Ontario a few years ago? That was in loco parentis in action, and a preview of things to come.

Parents need to be present and engaged, as do provincial politicians on the centre-left and left. (No federal intervention available here, but I know this particular federal government will make its opinion known. Very, very publicly.) Politicians need to speak out and help organise (the right already is); but it's parents that need to take the provincial government(s) to court, and to be prepared for a long game of losing in Superior Court, possibly losing at the Court of Appeal level, and then taking it on to the Supreme Court of Canada who has the final say on Charter and constitutional rights. The prevailing theory of constitutional law and rights in Canada is based on an expansion of rights, so trans kids and the parents that support and love them and their allies have a pretty good shot. But it's a long haul, kids will get hurt before any kind of resolution, someone needs to speak for them, and that's where principled politicians in the provinces and municipalities come in. And this isn't just Ontario – it's New Brunswick, Saskatchewan, and probably a few other conservative provinces will join in on this culture war/wedge issue. The Conservatives will probably join in at the federal level too, even though it's totally out of their jurisdiction – just for the love of the cynical hate and fear and division. So federal politicians in the centre/centre-left/left need to be ready to stand up and fight, too. (Looking at you, federal Liberals, federal NDP, etc.)

And the polling on this issue? You know what else didn't have majority support about 20 years ago? Same sex marriage. 55 years ago? Decriminalisation of same-sex acts AND heterosexual divorce without getting a LITERAL ACT OF FEDERAL PARLIAMENT. Polls don't mean shit, but they're being used to justify the worst in politics and cynicism and fear and division. The Charter, however, means everything, and there's no minimum age limit – those rights apply to everyone and prevent any level of government from violating them. But politicians – hate 'em or tolerate 'em – have to stand up and be everyone's voice and their defenders and their allies. And yes, this is going to get ugly.

To wrap up on a positive: To paraphrase a great prime minister, if you don't like a certain law, challenge it in court. If you can't win in court, then defeat it at the ballot box (read: kick the government out and elect a new one that will restore some sanity). FWIW, that same prime minister famously said that there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation. And there's no place for the premiers to tell kids who they are and who they aren't in the classrooms of the nation. Be who you are. Love who you love. Fight for your rights – this is Canada, and our constitution allows and encourages it. That's how people win. And they always have.

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