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Simon Harms's avatar

How do we have two major left wing parties in Ontario and neither of them knows what they’re doing?

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Peter's avatar

Which is the second one?

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Abruptly Biff's avatar

It is my understanding that about 50% of the 407 is owned by the Canada Pension Plan. So, the NDP wants to use Ontario taxpayer money to fund the federal CPP that working people in Ontario "invest" in with our employment deductions. How stupid are these people?

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Wesley Burton's avatar

Buying them out and funding them are two different things. They'd end up having to invest in something else.

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Abruptly Biff's avatar

I was not aware that the NDP was proposing buying out CPP's investment in the 407. Perhaps I have misunderstood?

I thought the NDP is proposing subsidizing the cost of trips on the 407 - which happens to be majority owned by our own federal pension plan - which is funded with taxpayer dollars of working Canadians, including those in Ontario.

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Wesley Burton's avatar

I don't see how you can buy it without buying out those who own it now.

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Mark Hopkinson's avatar

Actually one fewer NDP than you calculated. They kicked our MPP from Algoma Manitoulin out of caucus. Ironically he would be a sure winner because he is so popular and hard working

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Eastern Rebellion's avatar

Forcing trucks onto the 407 isn't going to work. I don't see why the company that has the lease on the hwy (incidentally, the whole idea of making it a toll road was started by Bob Rae) would sell it. If you improve public transit, including making privately owned buses profitable, you will reduce the traffic congestion. You can also use legislation to reduce the number of transport trucks on the 401 during peak traffic hours. Subsidizing private companies with tax dollars to get elected is just plain stupid (no matter if it is done by a left, right or centre party).

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Peter's avatar

Going to reserve judgement until the complete ONDP platform drops. Overly obsessing about polls this early on before most people have started paying attention is super lame and distorting, honestly. It has the affect of spreading disillusionment and suppressing voter turn-out. Ontario is one of the most car-brained places on earth, so throwing that massive demographic a bone isn’t the worst tactic, though it is cynical. Let’s focus on the policies we want to see: affordable social housing, massive investment in an electric passenger rail network, stricter greenbelt protection, higher minimum wage, a well-funded safe cycling network infrastructure plan, corporate fines for price gouging, cheaper transit fares, free transit for school kids, etc.

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Pam's avatar

No, Marit Stiles is not more impressive in person. What you’re seeing is all that there is. The ONDP is f#cked for as long as she’s at the helm.

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Wesley Burton's avatar

Too bad no one else was interested in the job.

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