I have been thinking about what options the conservatives have at this point. I cannot think of anything. Poilievre is not going to become likeable in the eyes of most people overnight. There is no conceivable way that he could compete with Carney on economic competency. The Trump ballot question is not becoming less relevant. Everything is a dead end.
On another note: I just got the second local Carleton riding poll. This time Spadina Strategies with local riding questions. So, are the Conservatives concerned or are the Liberals checking if there is an opportunity? And for what it is worth, in my small subdivision of 40 houses: 5 Bruce Fanjoy signs, no Pierre Poilievre signs.
I love Carney but said i would never vote liberal again. I find him to be very down to earth and not getting down in the mud. He has a dru sense of Canadian humour and we need him now because of his financial knowledge, im voting the man not necessalary the party.
Musashi’s water strategy applies here. Flow into the cracks and advance with little effort. Tiny Trump is unlikable, inane, and spoiling for confrontation. Carney just needs to draw out and underscore these by baiting him. He’s easily angered and not good on his feet. Can’t imagine Carney’s people not drawing up a script here that demonstrates what Carney is and more importantly what Pierre is.
I am not competent to have an opinion on Carney’s French language skills, but simply based on cadence he seems to speak the same way in both official languages. He considers each thought carefully before expressing it. I think the chances of him making a mistake in the debates is very very low.
Pierre on the other hand is going to be desperate for a “moment” and could easily fall into a hole.
I wonder how many people will watch? The events in the US are taking up a lot of bandwidth at the moment and it could also be the case most people have made up their minds already.
After years of listening to an unctuous Jr. Trudeau and the annoying, rabid-dog-like-PP repeating their learned lines, it is a pleasure to hear Carney, pauses and all, articulating reasoned thoughts.
I consider it a failure of Canada's Democratic Institutions that so few moments of so few people seem to matter so much to how Canada will be governed. An aggressive cult of personality, with corporate party brands that increasingly treat elected Members of Parliament as employees of a corporation.
I understand that we are stuck in this culture at the moment, but I'm surprised so many people are simply playing a flawed game rather than being focused in some way on fixing those flaws.
Why does "elbows up" only mean opposing the visible attacks from the current US Presidency, and not all the blind adoption of playbooks which will guarantee our eventual loss?
Canada should never have adopted US-style leadership conventions, and party parliamentary caucuses should decide their own leaders based on the changing needs of a parliament.
I see so much of the failures of the USA within Canadian institutions -- it is sad to see so many people flag waiving while continuing to support policy changes that make Canada more like the USA.
Québécoise here : Carney's French doesn't suck so much BTW, and that is also starting to boomerang back to conservatives. We had the two hours/five chiefs interviews at Radio-Canada this week, and I heard more than one person say: "Polievre's French is *barely* any better than Carney's".
But... And very much to your point, he doesn't say it's good. He says it's 6/10, and will get better. Doesn't pretend.
What a relief to have a chance to vote for a "real" person for a top political post! No masks, no deliberate charisma, just a serious and well-spoken person with the right kind of experience to pull us out of a political and economic catastrophe. Whew!
I am firmly in the camp of anyone but conservative for this election. In my interior BC riding 383 has Liberals in 2nd place at 27% and NDP in third at 13%. Big riding - but this half it’s mostly NDP signs and the odd PCP in pockets. At > 99% PCP, I doubt any $ has been spent on polling here. So unless the strong PCP area has gone Liberal - and the 99% suggests the polling doesn’t think so, I’m suspecting the Liberal / NDP percentages are way off. Was going to vote Liberal based on 383, but will likely vote NDP. Low risk of causing a PCP win for wrong choice - but would like to vote for the best chance. It’ll be an interesting night but I’m hoping there isn’t too much complacency out there. This cake is not baked yet.
I have been thinking about what options the conservatives have at this point. I cannot think of anything. Poilievre is not going to become likeable in the eyes of most people overnight. There is no conceivable way that he could compete with Carney on economic competency. The Trump ballot question is not becoming less relevant. Everything is a dead end.
On another note: I just got the second local Carleton riding poll. This time Spadina Strategies with local riding questions. So, are the Conservatives concerned or are the Liberals checking if there is an opportunity? And for what it is worth, in my small subdivision of 40 houses: 5 Bruce Fanjoy signs, no Pierre Poilievre signs.
Update on the lawn signs. Conservatives went door knocking offering lawn signs. Score is now 5-2.
I love Carney but said i would never vote liberal again. I find him to be very down to earth and not getting down in the mud. He has a dru sense of Canadian humour and we need him now because of his financial knowledge, im voting the man not necessalary the party.
He is the best choice by far with who is running. We need a steady leader not a typical politician.
Musashi’s water strategy applies here. Flow into the cracks and advance with little effort. Tiny Trump is unlikable, inane, and spoiling for confrontation. Carney just needs to draw out and underscore these by baiting him. He’s easily angered and not good on his feet. Can’t imagine Carney’s people not drawing up a script here that demonstrates what Carney is and more importantly what Pierre is.
I am not competent to have an opinion on Carney’s French language skills, but simply based on cadence he seems to speak the same way in both official languages. He considers each thought carefully before expressing it. I think the chances of him making a mistake in the debates is very very low.
Pierre on the other hand is going to be desperate for a “moment” and could easily fall into a hole.
I wonder how many people will watch? The events in the US are taking up a lot of bandwidth at the moment and it could also be the case most people have made up their minds already.
Its good to think over things before answering
"He’s not a world class public speaker,"
After years of listening to an unctuous Jr. Trudeau and the annoying, rabid-dog-like-PP repeating their learned lines, it is a pleasure to hear Carney, pauses and all, articulating reasoned thoughts.
I consider it a failure of Canada's Democratic Institutions that so few moments of so few people seem to matter so much to how Canada will be governed. An aggressive cult of personality, with corporate party brands that increasingly treat elected Members of Parliament as employees of a corporation.
I understand that we are stuck in this culture at the moment, but I'm surprised so many people are simply playing a flawed game rather than being focused in some way on fixing those flaws.
Why does "elbows up" only mean opposing the visible attacks from the current US Presidency, and not all the blind adoption of playbooks which will guarantee our eventual loss?
Canada should never have adopted US-style leadership conventions, and party parliamentary caucuses should decide their own leaders based on the changing needs of a parliament.
https://www.davidgraham.ca/p/leadership-by-caucus
I see so much of the failures of the USA within Canadian institutions -- it is sad to see so many people flag waiving while continuing to support policy changes that make Canada more like the USA.
https://r.flora.ca/p/lets-work-to-fix-parliamentary-flaws
Note: I live in Ottawa Center (boundary change, was in Ottawa South). Mark Carney and Pierre Polievre are not going to be named on my ballot!
Québécoise here : Carney's French doesn't suck so much BTW, and that is also starting to boomerang back to conservatives. We had the two hours/five chiefs interviews at Radio-Canada this week, and I heard more than one person say: "Polievre's French is *barely* any better than Carney's".
But... And very much to your point, he doesn't say it's good. He says it's 6/10, and will get better. Doesn't pretend.
Yes he said he was learning French and i noticed after PP making fun of it i dont see much difference
I saw one comment about the strawberries on X and my eyes could unfortunately not roll around the back of my head enough 🙄
Like who cares about such details? I wanna know that the PM is safe and has a solid security team taking care of him
I have not forgotten about a certain Corey from Manitoba who drove all the way to Ottawa fully intending to assassinate JT
What a relief to have a chance to vote for a "real" person for a top political post! No masks, no deliberate charisma, just a serious and well-spoken person with the right kind of experience to pull us out of a political and economic catastrophe. Whew!
CPC are in trouble but debates won't matter as long as Trump is re-shaping the world.
O'Toole would have been perfect with his steady gait and calm deneanour.
Poilievre can mask his anger and vindictiveness but it re-surfaces every time he talka about CPC.
Hopefully they boot him if he loses and bring in someone who relates to urban centres and soccer moms.
I am firmly in the camp of anyone but conservative for this election. In my interior BC riding 383 has Liberals in 2nd place at 27% and NDP in third at 13%. Big riding - but this half it’s mostly NDP signs and the odd PCP in pockets. At > 99% PCP, I doubt any $ has been spent on polling here. So unless the strong PCP area has gone Liberal - and the 99% suggests the polling doesn’t think so, I’m suspecting the Liberal / NDP percentages are way off. Was going to vote Liberal based on 383, but will likely vote NDP. Low risk of causing a PCP win for wrong choice - but would like to vote for the best chance. It’ll be an interesting night but I’m hoping there isn’t too much complacency out there. This cake is not baked yet.
Good article. My take is that nothing is sticking to Mr Carney.
Had to laugh at the lady yelling out “lead us big daddy” at a rally in Toronto.
Obviously I meant LPC there, and Charest is horrible horrible, why do I see him on French CBC offering opinions?.