I've been stressed out by some of the implications of Online Harms legislation, which is in-progress. I've been able to get vague, admittedly heavily scripted, responses from the Liberal Party. I've been able to get vague, admittedly incredibly gaslighting, responses from the Conservative Party.
As an NDP voter, frequent donor (small amounts, but still), and member of both the provincial and federal parties -- I can't get a single reply to any question relating to their digital policy. I can't get a reply if I have concerns, suggestions, or even just a simple question of things like, 'where do you stand on the plans to shift to a UK-style age verification system.'
NDP Leadership is a problem, but there's also a huge gap in how it portrays itself as being a transparent stalwart for people and for workers, and how they actually treat supporters--ignoring them by and large, while spamming our inboxes with an almost unbelievable amount of fundraising emails.
When the Liberals are planning concerning legislation that attacks privacy and anonymity, and the Conservatives are planning the opposite wrong of doing absolutely nothing at all to solve our social woes--the obvious move would be to vote NDP. But, they're just not giving people a reason to. This should be the NDP's moment to really stand for progressive causes, as an alternative to two deeply unpopular parties.
I said it in a prior comment. Each party gets the leader it deserves. The CPC decided that they wanted to be angry, so they got Poilievre. The NDP decided that they want to be useless, so they got a useless leader.
As soon as the party finds out what it wants to achieve, it will get a leader that can pursue this. Until that happens, the current leader will stay in his position.
However, the NDP may not get that chance. At the next election they could easily be reduced to less than 10 seats. They would be financially completely broke, is there any point continuing? We may end up with a 2 party system sooner than we think.
I am a federal and provincial Liberal. I have voted for the NDP when frustrated, annoyed, exasperated by the Liberals. This is now the permanent state in my province (BC). Federally? I am deeply challenged to vote "Team Trudeau" but the NDP offers no credible alternative. Perplexing...
I’d disagree with the idea that the supporters of the party like him. It’s certainly not the impression I get talking to people who know people. But I think the lack of organized opposition is very accurate.
I wonder if, in some ways, the NDP has been blowing up provincially at a strategically bad time for the national party?
They’re a historically smaller party with a smaller talent pool, and in recent years they’ve solidified their position at the top in BC, had three competitive elections in Alberta, shown signs of life in Saskatchewan, just formed the Government in Manitoba, and are the second place party in Ontario with real prospects for winning in the next election depending on how things develop.
In short, if you’re an ambitious and talented member of the NDP you’ve had a lot of options to make a real impact that are far more immediate than anything the national party is doing.
If you had a choice to be an MLA or staffer in the BC government would there be any attraction in giving that up for national politics?
In some ways it’s a reverse of the Liberal party, where anyone of talent checked out of provincial politics long ago.
In many ways the national party is clearly the minor leagues of NDP politics, and the provincial parties are the major leagues. Singh survives because everyone who could do something about it is busy doing more important things.
I think you right about all the provinces West of Ontario, but I don’t see it in Ontario. The Ontario NDP is as clueless as their federal counterpart. They should be hammering Ford and his corrupt government with a consistent message. It should not be hard, and yet, it somehow is.
Brilliant analysis. I can not abide Singh. I no longer vote NDP federally. In the past I have donated but no longer. I will vote Liberal federally until the NDP send Singh packing. I donate the maximum allowed toAlberta’s NDP who have chosen an intelligent and honest leader in Rachel Notley.
As someone who has been bullied and torn apart by the conservatives, I can’t believe the conservative mob is making strides, I have voiced my opinion of Singh. I got exhausted from the Trudeau hate and asked that Singh who to me is more conservative then NDP needs to step back. The Constant emails for fundraising and bashing the Liberals turned me off and many others right off. Finally lately they are emailing about Pierre Poilievre and I think too late. The federal NDP has not listened to voters, we at the provincial level and are not being paid back. It’s gotten so bad that a NDP vote is a vote for conservatives who are the mob. Hate has made people stupid, my provincial NDP are more busy with non voters then with possible voters. Provincially the NDP need to stay but federally they need to go, if this is how they run their campaign/party. We have a democratic emergency in Canada and people have turned off their lights. I vote NDP provincially and liberals federally. In all my years having a passion for politics I’ve never seen it so ridiculous. Even seeing the NDP come against the WE charity was sickening, and Singh singing the conservative rudeness on Twitter. If people would get over their hate for the liberals and see they are better for the people we’d be better off. But no stubbornness is gonna harm our country and conservatives have already destroyed me, I have nothing I worked for and paid off. They are dark and dangerous yet it’s hate on the liberals. No one should be buying conservative/corporate media. People have gotten too spoiled, selfish and have lost their critical thinking ability. If people don’t vote the liberals federally then consider Canada gone. Most of us already don’t get our stories told how we are bullied and cut by our provincial politicians. I just lost another 106 dollars monthly I’m barely hanging on before homelessness again. There is no support, zero, no accountability. We were tax payers that did everything right but because we are not a white man who votes republicans (we do not have conservatives in Canada) our dignity and bank accounts have been robbed literally. My situation will never recover, my life at 61 is over, I suffer from three invisible chronic pain illnesses, I worked my life away, only to be brutally attacked by my provincial government and Harper at the time. Does anyone not think that hate is exhausting? Voting is the only way to get these Trumpers out of Canada, our PM has done some remarkable things, plans on keeping our pensions and has made Canada highly rated and got us through a pandemic not like provincial premiers who let more people die then had to and raged on false scandals. I honestly cannot handle another Tory government, I’m tired of being bullied, robbed and abused by these Tories
As a forner NDP voter and member I wholeheartedly agree with everything you have said about them and Singh. They've prooped up neoliberal Trudeau - under whose watch corporate exploitation and wealth inequality has never been higher, as even professionals are struggling to make ends meet. This was their moment, to unite all working class people - urban, suburban and rural, blue collar and white collar, union and non-union, public and private sector, anglophone and francophone, young, middle aged, and old, indigenous, "old stock", and newcomers, and yes even culturally liberal and conservatives.
Instead they blow it all for identity politics and for a joke of a "dental plan".
Waiting for the day when those who are economically left and socio-culturally centre-right like myself have a party
The next federal eletion will be brutal. But if the CPC wins a majority, there is a good chance that the federal Liberal party will split in two. The left wing may decide to join with a newly galvanized NDP to form a true alternative that would attract good candidates, including for the leadership. That would breathe some seriousness back into our politics.
I've been stressed out by some of the implications of Online Harms legislation, which is in-progress. I've been able to get vague, admittedly heavily scripted, responses from the Liberal Party. I've been able to get vague, admittedly incredibly gaslighting, responses from the Conservative Party.
As an NDP voter, frequent donor (small amounts, but still), and member of both the provincial and federal parties -- I can't get a single reply to any question relating to their digital policy. I can't get a reply if I have concerns, suggestions, or even just a simple question of things like, 'where do you stand on the plans to shift to a UK-style age verification system.'
NDP Leadership is a problem, but there's also a huge gap in how it portrays itself as being a transparent stalwart for people and for workers, and how they actually treat supporters--ignoring them by and large, while spamming our inboxes with an almost unbelievable amount of fundraising emails.
When the Liberals are planning concerning legislation that attacks privacy and anonymity, and the Conservatives are planning the opposite wrong of doing absolutely nothing at all to solve our social woes--the obvious move would be to vote NDP. But, they're just not giving people a reason to. This should be the NDP's moment to really stand for progressive causes, as an alternative to two deeply unpopular parties.
Instead, we have Singh holding course.
I said it in a prior comment. Each party gets the leader it deserves. The CPC decided that they wanted to be angry, so they got Poilievre. The NDP decided that they want to be useless, so they got a useless leader.
As soon as the party finds out what it wants to achieve, it will get a leader that can pursue this. Until that happens, the current leader will stay in his position.
However, the NDP may not get that chance. At the next election they could easily be reduced to less than 10 seats. They would be financially completely broke, is there any point continuing? We may end up with a 2 party system sooner than we think.
I am so very sad to say that I agree.
I will vote NDP in Ontario if you will vote Liberal federally. That way we will eliminate the conservative curse.
I am a federal and provincial Liberal. I have voted for the NDP when frustrated, annoyed, exasperated by the Liberals. This is now the permanent state in my province (BC). Federally? I am deeply challenged to vote "Team Trudeau" but the NDP offers no credible alternative. Perplexing...
The Federal NDP sealed their fate when they chose Singh over Charlie Angus.
I’d disagree with the idea that the supporters of the party like him. It’s certainly not the impression I get talking to people who know people. But I think the lack of organized opposition is very accurate.
I wonder if, in some ways, the NDP has been blowing up provincially at a strategically bad time for the national party?
They’re a historically smaller party with a smaller talent pool, and in recent years they’ve solidified their position at the top in BC, had three competitive elections in Alberta, shown signs of life in Saskatchewan, just formed the Government in Manitoba, and are the second place party in Ontario with real prospects for winning in the next election depending on how things develop.
In short, if you’re an ambitious and talented member of the NDP you’ve had a lot of options to make a real impact that are far more immediate than anything the national party is doing.
If you had a choice to be an MLA or staffer in the BC government would there be any attraction in giving that up for national politics?
In some ways it’s a reverse of the Liberal party, where anyone of talent checked out of provincial politics long ago.
In many ways the national party is clearly the minor leagues of NDP politics, and the provincial parties are the major leagues. Singh survives because everyone who could do something about it is busy doing more important things.
I think you right about all the provinces West of Ontario, but I don’t see it in Ontario. The Ontario NDP is as clueless as their federal counterpart. They should be hammering Ford and his corrupt government with a consistent message. It should not be hard, and yet, it somehow is.
Amen.
.. so long overdue .. excellent ! already looking forward to 1st re-read too ..🦎🏴☠️
Brilliant analysis. I can not abide Singh. I no longer vote NDP federally. In the past I have donated but no longer. I will vote Liberal federally until the NDP send Singh packing. I donate the maximum allowed toAlberta’s NDP who have chosen an intelligent and honest leader in Rachel Notley.
As someone who has been bullied and torn apart by the conservatives, I can’t believe the conservative mob is making strides, I have voiced my opinion of Singh. I got exhausted from the Trudeau hate and asked that Singh who to me is more conservative then NDP needs to step back. The Constant emails for fundraising and bashing the Liberals turned me off and many others right off. Finally lately they are emailing about Pierre Poilievre and I think too late. The federal NDP has not listened to voters, we at the provincial level and are not being paid back. It’s gotten so bad that a NDP vote is a vote for conservatives who are the mob. Hate has made people stupid, my provincial NDP are more busy with non voters then with possible voters. Provincially the NDP need to stay but federally they need to go, if this is how they run their campaign/party. We have a democratic emergency in Canada and people have turned off their lights. I vote NDP provincially and liberals federally. In all my years having a passion for politics I’ve never seen it so ridiculous. Even seeing the NDP come against the WE charity was sickening, and Singh singing the conservative rudeness on Twitter. If people would get over their hate for the liberals and see they are better for the people we’d be better off. But no stubbornness is gonna harm our country and conservatives have already destroyed me, I have nothing I worked for and paid off. They are dark and dangerous yet it’s hate on the liberals. No one should be buying conservative/corporate media. People have gotten too spoiled, selfish and have lost their critical thinking ability. If people don’t vote the liberals federally then consider Canada gone. Most of us already don’t get our stories told how we are bullied and cut by our provincial politicians. I just lost another 106 dollars monthly I’m barely hanging on before homelessness again. There is no support, zero, no accountability. We were tax payers that did everything right but because we are not a white man who votes republicans (we do not have conservatives in Canada) our dignity and bank accounts have been robbed literally. My situation will never recover, my life at 61 is over, I suffer from three invisible chronic pain illnesses, I worked my life away, only to be brutally attacked by my provincial government and Harper at the time. Does anyone not think that hate is exhausting? Voting is the only way to get these Trumpers out of Canada, our PM has done some remarkable things, plans on keeping our pensions and has made Canada highly rated and got us through a pandemic not like provincial premiers who let more people die then had to and raged on false scandals. I honestly cannot handle another Tory government, I’m tired of being bullied, robbed and abused by these Tories
As a forner NDP voter and member I wholeheartedly agree with everything you have said about them and Singh. They've prooped up neoliberal Trudeau - under whose watch corporate exploitation and wealth inequality has never been higher, as even professionals are struggling to make ends meet. This was their moment, to unite all working class people - urban, suburban and rural, blue collar and white collar, union and non-union, public and private sector, anglophone and francophone, young, middle aged, and old, indigenous, "old stock", and newcomers, and yes even culturally liberal and conservatives.
Instead they blow it all for identity politics and for a joke of a "dental plan".
Waiting for the day when those who are economically left and socio-culturally centre-right like myself have a party
The next federal eletion will be brutal. But if the CPC wins a majority, there is a good chance that the federal Liberal party will split in two. The left wing may decide to join with a newly galvanized NDP to form a true alternative that would attract good candidates, including for the leadership. That would breathe some seriousness back into our politics.