I'm a locked in Conservative voter, but if I was a Liberal and wanted to see my party succeed and shape this country before 2040, I would want this government gone. Let PP in so that he can inevitably trip over himself for 4 years while you clean house (and not just MPs - party hacks need to go to). Build a vision you can get behind and seek out genuine people who can connect with Canadians, not ones that are personally tied to the PM or Laurentian families.
I actually think a comeback in 4 or 10 years is totally feasible - but it will require the current Liberal 'thought leaders' to take a hard look in the mirror and then take themselves out behind the barn. I don't see how any Liberal with name recognition can be allowed to go into the next election (Anand and Joly may be the only exceptions and I don't think even Joly cuts it).
Last Friday I did not believe the Ottawa gossip, mainly because I thought that Trudeau would not be so stupid to challenge Freeland. There is no way that she would ever accept a demotion. As it turned out, I was wrong. Trudeau has completely miscalculated the situation. And Freeland timed her resignation to do the most damage possible, a few hours before the economic update.
It is hard to see how (and why) Carney would be willing to take on the role. Especially now. If he does, he is making the same miscalculation as Trudeau. I believe he is too smart for that, but I have been wrong before.
Optimistically I suggest that Trudeau finally accepts that he's going down and he/the party is giving them a chance to distance themselves from him. The CPC will form the next govt but not the one after.
… and Freeland resigned hours after this was posted
From a realpolitik perspective, I can’t imagine why Carney would accept the job. If he has his eye on replacing Trudeau, publicly tying himself to the sinking government only hurts him. And if he’s not looking at the top job, why even get involved?
I'm a locked in Conservative voter, but if I was a Liberal and wanted to see my party succeed and shape this country before 2040, I would want this government gone. Let PP in so that he can inevitably trip over himself for 4 years while you clean house (and not just MPs - party hacks need to go to). Build a vision you can get behind and seek out genuine people who can connect with Canadians, not ones that are personally tied to the PM or Laurentian families.
I actually think a comeback in 4 or 10 years is totally feasible - but it will require the current Liberal 'thought leaders' to take a hard look in the mirror and then take themselves out behind the barn. I don't see how any Liberal with name recognition can be allowed to go into the next election (Anand and Joly may be the only exceptions and I don't think even Joly cuts it).
Last Friday I did not believe the Ottawa gossip, mainly because I thought that Trudeau would not be so stupid to challenge Freeland. There is no way that she would ever accept a demotion. As it turned out, I was wrong. Trudeau has completely miscalculated the situation. And Freeland timed her resignation to do the most damage possible, a few hours before the economic update.
It is hard to see how (and why) Carney would be willing to take on the role. Especially now. If he does, he is making the same miscalculation as Trudeau. I believe he is too smart for that, but I have been wrong before.
Hey Evan. All the best for 2025.
Optimistically I suggest that Trudeau finally accepts that he's going down and he/the party is giving them a chance to distance themselves from him. The CPC will form the next govt but not the one after.
… and Freeland resigned hours after this was posted
From a realpolitik perspective, I can’t imagine why Carney would accept the job. If he has his eye on replacing Trudeau, publicly tying himself to the sinking government only hurts him. And if he’s not looking at the top job, why even get involved?