“Either Poilievre wins this time around, or the Tory establishment gets off their asses and runs a real moderate in the next leadership election on an explicit “you got your chance, you fucked up, we need to win” message.”
I see things like this every time there’s a discussion about right wing politics, whether in Canada or south of the border or places like the UK. But who is this mythical moderate establishment?
I mean that seriously. Sure, back in the 80s when the establishment conservatives roped in the culture warriors as useful idiots with reliable votes an argument could be made about the division between the “real” Conservative Party and the vocal social conservative wing.
But that was 40 years ago.
Do you see any prominent social moderates currently winning CPC nomination meetings anywhere in Canada?
The CPC might need to jettison the nut-jobs in order to win. But how does that work when the nut-jobs *are* the party?
“Either Poilievre wins this time around, or the Tory establishment gets off their asses and runs a real moderate in the next leadership election on an explicit “you got your chance, you fucked up, we need to win” message.”
I see things like this every time there’s a discussion about right wing politics, whether in Canada or south of the border or places like the UK. But who is this mythical moderate establishment?
I mean that seriously. Sure, back in the 80s when the establishment conservatives roped in the culture warriors as useful idiots with reliable votes an argument could be made about the division between the “real” Conservative Party and the vocal social conservative wing.
But that was 40 years ago.
Do you see any prominent social moderates currently winning CPC nomination meetings anywhere in Canada?
The CPC might need to jettison the nut-jobs in order to win. But how does that work when the nut-jobs *are* the party?
That's the problem. The RWNJs are the party. I can't see anything changing. Hopefully this leads to the collapse of the CPC at some point.
I came in agreeing with you about the NDP. I found your CPC argument very convincing.