There is another issue with the sales tax cut for in Canada assembled cars.
Canada would be violating other free trade agreements with other countries than the US. For example, we would likely have to give the same tax advantage to cars assembled in Europe, and possibly South Korea and Japan as well. The US has violated the free trade agreement with Canada and Mexico, but this is no basis for Canada to do the same and start ripping up free trade agreements that we have signed with other parts of the world.
This proposal not only shows the tax cut reflex by the conservatives during election periods, but also their complete inability to think through the consequences of what they are proposing. They are amateurs.
It's really shocking to me PP just doesn't "get it." How can he not tell his message is not resonating? How can he not see that Carney is trouncing him?
Something BIG has to happen, and soon, or he will lose, and lose badly.
Assuming there is no terrible scandal looming for Carney, he needs an idea that will really catch on. I doubt he has one, since he would have played it by now.
Call me crazy, but I actually prayed one of the parties would actually take a different approach and advocate for a tax RISE to fund a stronger Canada. We are running massive deficits. We need to get real. We want to build this country up? It will cost us. But that is what we need to do to come together to meet this moment. Public infrastucture, military spending, etc.
There is a way to do this that is fair and equitable. But we are living in a collective fantasy land now, where no sacrifices are required.
Don’t worry. If the polls are correct the Liberals will win at least a minority government. As we’ve seen in the past 4 years - a minority Liberal government in Canada gives them full powers to accomplish anything they want, including your wish for more taxes. Since the Carney Liberals have pledged to keep Bill C-69, hindering our wealth producing oil and gas industry, we will need to find other areas to fund the government. The Canadian taxpayer still has plenty of room to give more. What are the Conservatives thinking talking tax cuts? Our government does so much for us - we need to give them more money to keep the good times rolling.
When psychologists study persuasion, they find that credibility can be enhanced for the persuader by conceding a point that runs counter to the larger argument. The persuader appears to be more honest and empathetic to the listener and is willing to give the larger argument a better hearing. Breaking a stereotype or seemingly entrenched position, as you argue, can have the same effect. In fact, this may have been one of the challenges of the Trudeau government over its last few years. It often appeared to be arguing that it was always right and seemed unwilling (until much too late) to accept that it had made mistakes or just failed to adjust effectively to changing circumstances. Moreover, it can be difficult for a government or a leader to break those expectations to re-gain support when they have been around for a long time and the perceptions of positions are thoroughly baked in.
The car argument feels like the false choice fallacy. While people with $50K for a new car aren’t poor the objective of supporting Canadian made would still be supported by providing an enticement over cars made in all other countries particularly Korea and Japan, given the cost of British and German cars. It’s not about enabling someone who couldn’t otherwise afford a $50K car to buy one, it’s about enticing them to buy one built here. Look, I’m NEVER voting Conservative but Liberals need to make sure their arguments against Conservative policies hold water.
Evan, you've hit one of the flaws in the CPC campaign. Doctrine tax cuts as foundational to their platform is being questioned as many Canadians would never benefit from this upper middle to wealthy class aimed policies. If our nation needs to build a more sovereign economy more free from American dominance, capital investment is required. Where that capital comes from is important. The Trudeau government kept incredibly poor track of spending and frankly was incompetent in growing an economy through productivity as statistics show. We need leadership with a bold vision developed by consensus and the capital to build a unified economy. We need fundamental changes in raising capital to rebuild Canada. Let's hope our next government avoids the tax cut mantra, and instead tracks every dollar spent, and that eahc dollar moves the nation forward.
I wish I shared your optimism that policies matter. They matter to me, but I think there is so much emotion-over-logic going on in Canadian politics that policy isn't going to impact the election.
I'm aware of many people around me where the anti-"liberal" message is resonating. For them it isn't merely the Liberal Party of Canada, but anything that is claimed to be "liberal" (including neoliberalism, which I don't think of as very liberal at all). Some of the more traditional hatred is growing (anti-immigrant, racism, misogyny/androcentrism, etc, etc).
It is hard to challenge blind anger with policies, data, etc.
There is another issue with the sales tax cut for in Canada assembled cars.
Canada would be violating other free trade agreements with other countries than the US. For example, we would likely have to give the same tax advantage to cars assembled in Europe, and possibly South Korea and Japan as well. The US has violated the free trade agreement with Canada and Mexico, but this is no basis for Canada to do the same and start ripping up free trade agreements that we have signed with other parts of the world.
This proposal not only shows the tax cut reflex by the conservatives during election periods, but also their complete inability to think through the consequences of what they are proposing. They are amateurs.
It's really shocking to me PP just doesn't "get it." How can he not tell his message is not resonating? How can he not see that Carney is trouncing him?
Something BIG has to happen, and soon, or he will lose, and lose badly.
Assuming there is no terrible scandal looming for Carney, he needs an idea that will really catch on. I doubt he has one, since he would have played it by now.
Call me crazy, but I actually prayed one of the parties would actually take a different approach and advocate for a tax RISE to fund a stronger Canada. We are running massive deficits. We need to get real. We want to build this country up? It will cost us. But that is what we need to do to come together to meet this moment. Public infrastucture, military spending, etc.
There is a way to do this that is fair and equitable. But we are living in a collective fantasy land now, where no sacrifices are required.
Don’t worry. If the polls are correct the Liberals will win at least a minority government. As we’ve seen in the past 4 years - a minority Liberal government in Canada gives them full powers to accomplish anything they want, including your wish for more taxes. Since the Carney Liberals have pledged to keep Bill C-69, hindering our wealth producing oil and gas industry, we will need to find other areas to fund the government. The Canadian taxpayer still has plenty of room to give more. What are the Conservatives thinking talking tax cuts? Our government does so much for us - we need to give them more money to keep the good times rolling.
When psychologists study persuasion, they find that credibility can be enhanced for the persuader by conceding a point that runs counter to the larger argument. The persuader appears to be more honest and empathetic to the listener and is willing to give the larger argument a better hearing. Breaking a stereotype or seemingly entrenched position, as you argue, can have the same effect. In fact, this may have been one of the challenges of the Trudeau government over its last few years. It often appeared to be arguing that it was always right and seemed unwilling (until much too late) to accept that it had made mistakes or just failed to adjust effectively to changing circumstances. Moreover, it can be difficult for a government or a leader to break those expectations to re-gain support when they have been around for a long time and the perceptions of positions are thoroughly baked in.
The car argument feels like the false choice fallacy. While people with $50K for a new car aren’t poor the objective of supporting Canadian made would still be supported by providing an enticement over cars made in all other countries particularly Korea and Japan, given the cost of British and German cars. It’s not about enabling someone who couldn’t otherwise afford a $50K car to buy one, it’s about enticing them to buy one built here. Look, I’m NEVER voting Conservative but Liberals need to make sure their arguments against Conservative policies hold water.
Evan, you've hit one of the flaws in the CPC campaign. Doctrine tax cuts as foundational to their platform is being questioned as many Canadians would never benefit from this upper middle to wealthy class aimed policies. If our nation needs to build a more sovereign economy more free from American dominance, capital investment is required. Where that capital comes from is important. The Trudeau government kept incredibly poor track of spending and frankly was incompetent in growing an economy through productivity as statistics show. We need leadership with a bold vision developed by consensus and the capital to build a unified economy. We need fundamental changes in raising capital to rebuild Canada. Let's hope our next government avoids the tax cut mantra, and instead tracks every dollar spent, and that eahc dollar moves the nation forward.
It is a fact that people cannot reason when they are angry. This is why some politicians find it so helpful to whip people into a frenzy.
I wish I shared your optimism that policies matter. They matter to me, but I think there is so much emotion-over-logic going on in Canadian politics that policy isn't going to impact the election.
I'm aware of many people around me where the anti-"liberal" message is resonating. For them it isn't merely the Liberal Party of Canada, but anything that is claimed to be "liberal" (including neoliberalism, which I don't think of as very liberal at all). Some of the more traditional hatred is growing (anti-immigrant, racism, misogyny/androcentrism, etc, etc).
It is hard to challenge blind anger with policies, data, etc.