I hate how he obfuscates jurisdictional responsibilities and gives a free pass to "The Resistance" premiers just to dunk on Trudeau. Or how much of a partisan hack he is that he hypocritically blames Trudeau for things that are in Horgan's wheelhouse. Fairy Creek, Justin's fault. Wet'suwet'en, Justin's fault. He campaigned for Horgan's early election then railed against Trudeau's. He outright lied that Trudeau was personally pocketing student loan interest. He doesn't care for the good of the country. He only cares about himself.
I read another article this morning from a blogger in Vancouver who lamented the loss of the collaborative spirit between Lewis and Trudeau the elder. Today's NDP are just shitposters leading a party of lies, purity gatekeeping and anti-Trudeau hate. We'll see more of that this parliament, more grandstanding and witch hunts at committees teaming up with the Cons to attack the Liberals and Trudeau in particular on manufactured nonsense. So that he can pick up more social media clips to call Trudeau corrupt just like Cons do.
I know you said that Jagmeet was just bluffing when he said he'd prop up the Cons but I never believed it then and I don't know. His behaviour and that of the party speaks volumes. He's a Blue Dipper through and through. He's a narcissist. He's actively damaging to progressive causes. He needs to go. The whole party (Charlie Angus in particular) needs to be cleaned out.
I probably have so much more to say… but as a middle aged woman in Ontario, raised by a young mother who was both an NDP and labour organizer in Saskatchewan — I could not agree more.
I was always gonna vote Liberal but my ideological and historical home is the NDP. I’ve been deeply concerned and quite frankly disgusted by Jagmeet’s tactics and NDP unseriousness for a long while. But gawd dammit, my family is in the prairies and the country NEEDS a strong NDP.
My mom is crushed by Tria Donaldson’s defeat. Not just because she had high hopes for her young “one to watch” friend. But because after 2 years of Singh driven NDP games — she can’t take it anymore. She voted NDP because a Liberal vote in Regina-Lewvan is a waste. But after voting for Singh as leader, she’s been pulling away for awhile. And because the lifetime party she has actively committed her life to, left her and serious progressives a while ago. And lost seats is maybe the least of the reason.
Honestly, you articulated many of the same reasons why I think the New Democratic Party will betray their base, their donors and ultimately the country if they don’t push out Jagmeet Singh. (He will never go on his own.) You just added the granular math.
As someone who has long voted and donated to the NDP, I disagree with this analysis. Jagmeet ran a strong left-wing campaign that reflected social democratic values, and his personal popularity is extremely high, both of which matter more to me and I'd wager most members given the NDP's historical status as the 3rd party. Winning doesn't matter as much as maintaining the integrity of the party, and Jagmeet has done so in ways Mulcair didn't when he ran towards the centre.
Sure, some of the results were devastating and it was disappointing to see some strong candidates lose, but the NDP's problem is structural. First-Past-The-Post results in a systematic failure to win seats despite holding double-digit support across the country, while the Liberal Party is both credible among the centre-left, has strong voter efficiency, and needs to collapse for the NDP a la 2011 to have a path to victory.
There was also systematic polling errors that probably impacted the NDP's strategy this time around, and led them to campaign offensively in ridings while they should've been shoring up support elsewhere. I would argue these conditions need to change first, and have a bigger influence over the NDP's victories and losses rather than any one leader.
With that being said, I will be supporting Jagmeet Singh in the next leadership review.
Jagmeet totallt lost me when he criticized Trudeau for telling that protestor "don't you have a hospital to protest" when that protestor call Sophie Trudeau a "whore". Are you kidding me Jagmeet? if someone called your wife a whore you would not be upset? That just showed me he's more interested in shitting on Trudeau than doing the right thing.
Not a surprise considering he didn't say boo about the "friendly sausage maker" who crashed his pickup truck into Rideau Cottage with a weapons arsenal in tow, looking to have a "chat" with Trudeau about QAnon conspiracies. Or how he let Angus waste a whole year dragging Margaret Trudeau through the mud, framing her mental health activism as little more than graft from a fame whore riding the coattails of her son and husband's last name. I really get the feeling that the NDP hardcore don't just disagree with Justin Trudeau or the Liberal party on policy. They've come to hate Liberals and the entire Trudeau family on a personal level as much as the Cons do. And a lot of that is Jagmeet's fault.
Here, here! The Liberal/Trudeau hate and shitposting tactics by elected and base NDP doesn’t just infuriate me. It’s deeply concerning. I feel like we’re watching the horseshoe theory of politics play out in a faux populist party. And since we’ve been watching democracy erode all across the West. I’m pretty sure if this continues, the NDP will hasten or all but guarantee Canada joins that growing list.
Bernie Sanders aside (sorta), Trump probably couldn’t have won without the cynical and often illiberal BernieBro wing of the US electorate. With the right wing fascist, authoritarian forces infecting Canada’s body politic. I think we should be worried and pissed that the current iteration of the NDP could easily contribute to an unhealthy and probably authoritarian slide.
NDP Brass could and should stop this. Even for the raw politics and electoral strategy. But I’m not sure they can or want to see where this increasingly autocratic cult of personality is leading. And if they do, there doesn’t seem to be any appetite to protect their voters, their party, or the country from all the possible ramifications.
I forgot he also said Trump did a better job of addressing systemic racism than Trudeau. That was just outright unforgivable. He's awful, and he has gotten too much of a free pass from the con-leaning media who pumps his tires in hope of splitting the vote.
I hate how he obfuscates jurisdictional responsibilities and gives a free pass to "The Resistance" premiers just to dunk on Trudeau. Or how much of a partisan hack he is that he hypocritically blames Trudeau for things that are in Horgan's wheelhouse. Fairy Creek, Justin's fault. Wet'suwet'en, Justin's fault. He campaigned for Horgan's early election then railed against Trudeau's. He outright lied that Trudeau was personally pocketing student loan interest. He doesn't care for the good of the country. He only cares about himself.
I read another article this morning from a blogger in Vancouver who lamented the loss of the collaborative spirit between Lewis and Trudeau the elder. Today's NDP are just shitposters leading a party of lies, purity gatekeeping and anti-Trudeau hate. We'll see more of that this parliament, more grandstanding and witch hunts at committees teaming up with the Cons to attack the Liberals and Trudeau in particular on manufactured nonsense. So that he can pick up more social media clips to call Trudeau corrupt just like Cons do.
I know you said that Jagmeet was just bluffing when he said he'd prop up the Cons but I never believed it then and I don't know. His behaviour and that of the party speaks volumes. He's a Blue Dipper through and through. He's a narcissist. He's actively damaging to progressive causes. He needs to go. The whole party (Charlie Angus in particular) needs to be cleaned out.
typo: I know you said that Jagmeet was just bluffing when he said he'd prop up the Cons but I never believed it then and I don't *now.
Thank you Evan!
I probably have so much more to say… but as a middle aged woman in Ontario, raised by a young mother who was both an NDP and labour organizer in Saskatchewan — I could not agree more.
I was always gonna vote Liberal but my ideological and historical home is the NDP. I’ve been deeply concerned and quite frankly disgusted by Jagmeet’s tactics and NDP unseriousness for a long while. But gawd dammit, my family is in the prairies and the country NEEDS a strong NDP.
My mom is crushed by Tria Donaldson’s defeat. Not just because she had high hopes for her young “one to watch” friend. But because after 2 years of Singh driven NDP games — she can’t take it anymore. She voted NDP because a Liberal vote in Regina-Lewvan is a waste. But after voting for Singh as leader, she’s been pulling away for awhile. And because the lifetime party she has actively committed her life to, left her and serious progressives a while ago. And lost seats is maybe the least of the reason.
Honestly, you articulated many of the same reasons why I think the New Democratic Party will betray their base, their donors and ultimately the country if they don’t push out Jagmeet Singh. (He will never go on his own.) You just added the granular math.
Thanks again! Excellent analysis.
As someone who has long voted and donated to the NDP, I disagree with this analysis. Jagmeet ran a strong left-wing campaign that reflected social democratic values, and his personal popularity is extremely high, both of which matter more to me and I'd wager most members given the NDP's historical status as the 3rd party. Winning doesn't matter as much as maintaining the integrity of the party, and Jagmeet has done so in ways Mulcair didn't when he ran towards the centre.
Sure, some of the results were devastating and it was disappointing to see some strong candidates lose, but the NDP's problem is structural. First-Past-The-Post results in a systematic failure to win seats despite holding double-digit support across the country, while the Liberal Party is both credible among the centre-left, has strong voter efficiency, and needs to collapse for the NDP a la 2011 to have a path to victory.
There was also systematic polling errors that probably impacted the NDP's strategy this time around, and led them to campaign offensively in ridings while they should've been shoring up support elsewhere. I would argue these conditions need to change first, and have a bigger influence over the NDP's victories and losses rather than any one leader.
With that being said, I will be supporting Jagmeet Singh in the next leadership review.
Jagmeet totallt lost me when he criticized Trudeau for telling that protestor "don't you have a hospital to protest" when that protestor call Sophie Trudeau a "whore". Are you kidding me Jagmeet? if someone called your wife a whore you would not be upset? That just showed me he's more interested in shitting on Trudeau than doing the right thing.
Not a surprise considering he didn't say boo about the "friendly sausage maker" who crashed his pickup truck into Rideau Cottage with a weapons arsenal in tow, looking to have a "chat" with Trudeau about QAnon conspiracies. Or how he let Angus waste a whole year dragging Margaret Trudeau through the mud, framing her mental health activism as little more than graft from a fame whore riding the coattails of her son and husband's last name. I really get the feeling that the NDP hardcore don't just disagree with Justin Trudeau or the Liberal party on policy. They've come to hate Liberals and the entire Trudeau family on a personal level as much as the Cons do. And a lot of that is Jagmeet's fault.
Here, here! The Liberal/Trudeau hate and shitposting tactics by elected and base NDP doesn’t just infuriate me. It’s deeply concerning. I feel like we’re watching the horseshoe theory of politics play out in a faux populist party. And since we’ve been watching democracy erode all across the West. I’m pretty sure if this continues, the NDP will hasten or all but guarantee Canada joins that growing list.
Bernie Sanders aside (sorta), Trump probably couldn’t have won without the cynical and often illiberal BernieBro wing of the US electorate. With the right wing fascist, authoritarian forces infecting Canada’s body politic. I think we should be worried and pissed that the current iteration of the NDP could easily contribute to an unhealthy and probably authoritarian slide.
NDP Brass could and should stop this. Even for the raw politics and electoral strategy. But I’m not sure they can or want to see where this increasingly autocratic cult of personality is leading. And if they do, there doesn’t seem to be any appetite to protect their voters, their party, or the country from all the possible ramifications.
I forgot he also said Trump did a better job of addressing systemic racism than Trudeau. That was just outright unforgivable. He's awful, and he has gotten too much of a free pass from the con-leaning media who pumps his tires in hope of splitting the vote.