Here is the thing Evan! You are right, CBC is a public broadcaster and there should not be an argument about that. But PP isn't going after the CBC because it is a public broadcaster, he is going after it because it appeals to his angry base. Both Scheer and O'Toole had the same issue. The new Con voters are angry, anti-establishment, "common people" who go into a feeding frenzy over this nonsense. ( Add the WEF, Freedom, Trans rights, etc to the list of candy for his base) If PP stops going after the media, he loses them. If he loses them - he still loses. So he is not going to change. What concerns me most about these and other "populist" inspired attacks is the underlying belief they propagate. They are anti-democratic and dangerous to our country. If the press goes after him, it will confirm the self-righteous anger of his base - but the rest of us - well I will quite frankly be singing Hallelujah from the roof tops. Because he needs to be called on this BS. There is too much at stake not to.
I'd truly love to vote Trudeau out of office. He's a vapid, unethical, intellectually deficient goof who doesn't deserve reelection. But I absolutely could not live with myself if i voted for Poilievre's repugnant, caustic, "anti-woke", grievance/stupidity fueled US Republican style politics. 0% chance I'll vote for this iteration of the conservatives. Some tiny amount slightly higher than 0% that I'll vote liberal. Its possible to vehemently disapprove of both leaders.
Very much this. I think there’s a deep pool of voters who are actively unimpressed by Trudeau and would like to see him gone. But almost by definition that pool of voters can not be tapped by someone who is even less impressive than Trudeau.
I was archiving some audio material from the 80s a while ago, an a bunch of it was political stuff around acid rain and other environmental issues. And what really struck me what that none of the political parties were arguing that the problem wasn’t real, or didn’t need to be addressed. They were all arguing that they would do the best job of addressing it.
I am in exactly the same boat. How I’ll sort it out....but hell would freeze before I’d support a PP candidate and I’ve been a Progressive Conservative all my life.
This is the opening for today's Conservative missive that arrived at 14:17hr today:
"Friend, this is what we are up against in the next election.
The NDP-Liberal coalition, working together to bring in their radical woke agenda.
All while the CBC and their friends in the media attack us and spin their message."
Looks like they are setting up the CBC to be the attackers and Poilievre is the victim of their harassment. The victim message appears in every one of their emails. Someone is hurting Poilievre and the Conservatives need to send money to help make him feel better.
I keep receiving the regular emails from all parties so I can monitor this. For the entire time since his instalment in the leadership of the CPC, all of their emails have included a grain of this theme. Someone else is to blame and either you (as the reader) or CPC or Poilievre are the victims. I call it rage farming because it has the same result. Also there is an adherence in these CPC emails to playing loose with the facts about what is causing the harm in a specific instance but it is always the NDP-Liberal alliance that is at fault. It's like a jack hammer chewing away at the credibility of the government - same as they did to Kathleen Wynne. Every single day.
Yep, it's exactly the same as what the Ford Cons did to Wynne. And both social media character assassination campaigns were apparently run by someone named Ballingall. Like Wynne, the Trudeau side seems to be just ignoring the toxic campaign hoping that it influences no-one. I think that's a wrong take. This campaign will demoralize Liberal voters, causing "just enough" of them to stay home and not vote.
Anthony Koch is a very caustic and dangerous Poilievre pundit on Power and Politics.
Proof was on full display today on the end of segment mini panel.
He used to be SkiPPy's communications guy until that MGTOW hashtag thing.
I used to think that what I suspected was a hacking of my Twitter account, (and subsequent Permanent Account Suspension for reasons never explained by Twitter), was the result of unscrupulous folks that did not much care for my commentary on SkiPPy's Twitter Posts.
(I asked if Anthony Koch worked for SkiPPy when the MGTOW hashtag came into being (BTW he did)).
Today after what I observed with regard to SkiPPy's request to Elon to label the CBC as Government funded media, it actually being done, and the childish glee between Elon and SkiPPy's final 69% label,
well let's just say now I'm not quite sure about who was involved in what I thought was a hack as Elon is completely capable of making it all happen with a simple ask from someone that he holds similar views with in the Canadian government.
The small group of Twitter users in Canada are mostly politicians, news media folks and the political groupies that choose to inhabit Twitter's toxic world.
Taking that into consideration, it is clear that the extremely transparent CBC labelling was nothing but propaganda with Elon and SkiPPy saying to the media "know your place or else".
I hope you are right, Even. When PP first decided to run for the CP leadership, I entertained a faint hope that the eternal adolescent might actually be growing up. I also liked the idea that a Franco-Albertan might actually become the leader of the Conservative Party (the killers of Louis Riel and all that). But he is now in deep doodoo with the Quebec wing of his party because of his vicious attacks on the CBC - also known as Radio-Canada, and one of the pillars of French culture in Canada. And without at least some support in Quebec, there is no way to a majority of seats.
Here is the thing Evan! You are right, CBC is a public broadcaster and there should not be an argument about that. But PP isn't going after the CBC because it is a public broadcaster, he is going after it because it appeals to his angry base. Both Scheer and O'Toole had the same issue. The new Con voters are angry, anti-establishment, "common people" who go into a feeding frenzy over this nonsense. ( Add the WEF, Freedom, Trans rights, etc to the list of candy for his base) If PP stops going after the media, he loses them. If he loses them - he still loses. So he is not going to change. What concerns me most about these and other "populist" inspired attacks is the underlying belief they propagate. They are anti-democratic and dangerous to our country. If the press goes after him, it will confirm the self-righteous anger of his base - but the rest of us - well I will quite frankly be singing Hallelujah from the roof tops. Because he needs to be called on this BS. There is too much at stake not to.
I'd truly love to vote Trudeau out of office. He's a vapid, unethical, intellectually deficient goof who doesn't deserve reelection. But I absolutely could not live with myself if i voted for Poilievre's repugnant, caustic, "anti-woke", grievance/stupidity fueled US Republican style politics. 0% chance I'll vote for this iteration of the conservatives. Some tiny amount slightly higher than 0% that I'll vote liberal. Its possible to vehemently disapprove of both leaders.
Very much this. I think there’s a deep pool of voters who are actively unimpressed by Trudeau and would like to see him gone. But almost by definition that pool of voters can not be tapped by someone who is even less impressive than Trudeau.
I was archiving some audio material from the 80s a while ago, an a bunch of it was political stuff around acid rain and other environmental issues. And what really struck me what that none of the political parties were arguing that the problem wasn’t real, or didn’t need to be addressed. They were all arguing that they would do the best job of addressing it.
That’s what I wish we could have right now.
I am in exactly the same boat. How I’ll sort it out....but hell would freeze before I’d support a PP candidate and I’ve been a Progressive Conservative all my life.
This is the opening for today's Conservative missive that arrived at 14:17hr today:
"Friend, this is what we are up against in the next election.
The NDP-Liberal coalition, working together to bring in their radical woke agenda.
All while the CBC and their friends in the media attack us and spin their message."
Looks like they are setting up the CBC to be the attackers and Poilievre is the victim of their harassment. The victim message appears in every one of their emails. Someone is hurting Poilievre and the Conservatives need to send money to help make him feel better.
Sounds an awful lot like a message from the Trump campaign.
I keep receiving the regular emails from all parties so I can monitor this. For the entire time since his instalment in the leadership of the CPC, all of their emails have included a grain of this theme. Someone else is to blame and either you (as the reader) or CPC or Poilievre are the victims. I call it rage farming because it has the same result. Also there is an adherence in these CPC emails to playing loose with the facts about what is causing the harm in a specific instance but it is always the NDP-Liberal alliance that is at fault. It's like a jack hammer chewing away at the credibility of the government - same as they did to Kathleen Wynne. Every single day.
Yep, it's exactly the same as what the Ford Cons did to Wynne. And both social media character assassination campaigns were apparently run by someone named Ballingall. Like Wynne, the Trudeau side seems to be just ignoring the toxic campaign hoping that it influences no-one. I think that's a wrong take. This campaign will demoralize Liberal voters, causing "just enough" of them to stay home and not vote.
See my comment above. It is candy for his base. They love to hate the media!
Anthony Koch is a very caustic and dangerous Poilievre pundit on Power and Politics.
Proof was on full display today on the end of segment mini panel.
He used to be SkiPPy's communications guy until that MGTOW hashtag thing.
I used to think that what I suspected was a hacking of my Twitter account, (and subsequent Permanent Account Suspension for reasons never explained by Twitter), was the result of unscrupulous folks that did not much care for my commentary on SkiPPy's Twitter Posts.
(I asked if Anthony Koch worked for SkiPPy when the MGTOW hashtag came into being (BTW he did)).
Today after what I observed with regard to SkiPPy's request to Elon to label the CBC as Government funded media, it actually being done, and the childish glee between Elon and SkiPPy's final 69% label,
well let's just say now I'm not quite sure about who was involved in what I thought was a hack as Elon is completely capable of making it all happen with a simple ask from someone that he holds similar views with in the Canadian government.
The small group of Twitter users in Canada are mostly politicians, news media folks and the political groupies that choose to inhabit Twitter's toxic world.
Taking that into consideration, it is clear that the extremely transparent CBC labelling was nothing but propaganda with Elon and SkiPPy saying to the media "know your place or else".
We live in dangerous times.
I hope you are right, Even. When PP first decided to run for the CP leadership, I entertained a faint hope that the eternal adolescent might actually be growing up. I also liked the idea that a Franco-Albertan might actually become the leader of the Conservative Party (the killers of Louis Riel and all that). But he is now in deep doodoo with the Quebec wing of his party because of his vicious attacks on the CBC - also known as Radio-Canada, and one of the pillars of French culture in Canada. And without at least some support in Quebec, there is no way to a majority of seats.
Poilievre's toddler tantrum approach will get him a time-out and kicked out by the voters, who's up next #CPC_HQ?
all in ? I disagree completely ..
mebbe my tokes are better than yours ..
I read Climenhaga this AM.. talk about dispiriting !
Now I read this.. what gives ? You need a late in th day mulligan ?